In my experience, Grovers are a bit heavier but hold tune better and are more accurate. I think grover tuners.
The housings are securely fastened to the base insuring proper gear and worm alignment for accurate tuning. Top
The cure? Grovers tend to be relatively heavy and would not be my first choice for a guitar with a light body that is on the verge of being a neck diver. Grover, Gotoh, Kluson, Sperzel etc pros and cons When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. These period correct tuning machines can replace the originals used on Fender ® guitars of the 50s and 60s.. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. In truth, the difference is probably negligible, but so is the price difference. 42 sold.
Messages: 289. So the real ones are around 20 years old. I wanted a look similar to my Gibson True Vintage Hummingbird which came with Gibson-branded kluson style tuners.
Rockape, Apr 7, 2013 #10. Kluson tuners were so ubiquitous, particularly in the 50s, that a variety of vintage tuners are on the market.
They just were not as smooth as the Sealfast and waffleback tuners.
Among the more modern tuners, the pre-import Grover Imperial and Roto-matic tuners have been excellent for me. CAR57 Strat-Talker.
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And no neck dive. Kluson has truly introduced a game changer with the traditional footprint and newly designed sealed die-cast housing. $8.99 They can make your guitar head heavy, at the same. Even then, it was clear that Grover was a superior tuner and it still is if you compare vintage Grovers to vintage Klusons.
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[/font] [font=VERDANA, 'SANS-SERIF'] This is a single Kluson tuner for Martin style 18 guitars from the late 1940's through the early 1950's. Grover Sta-tite tuners, on most of my old archtop guitars, were set 'em and forget 'em.
These guitars use Kluson - style tuners with press-in bushings, where the Grovers use the screw-in type bushing.
I was just wondering if anyone had taken their Ess339 P90 tuners off and replaced them, and with what. [/font] IIRC, each Grover weighs something like 52 grams, each Kluson Revolution something like 32 grams. Not only do you get a 19:1 ratio, you get a substantial weight reduction.
Re: Schaller vs Grover locking tuners? The only open gear Kluson style tuners I did not check out were the Grovers, which are made in Taiwain and the Tonepros Kluson, which I suspect are made in China, like the Gibson Deluxes.
Gotoh Kluson style tuners are very good.
TonePros makes a version of these tuners also, and Gibson has made a deal with TonePros to supply them to the factory. Contact Us
Outside diameter = 8.85mm.
I don’t know for sure, but the casings look like the non-steel type I don’t like.
Grover Locking Rotomatics ® give you the ease of use provided by a standard tuner and the positive locking of our internal cam post.18:1 gear ratio.
I'm sure only Axel knows if they have wax potting. The buttons are about the right size & shape and have a nice cream color. They seem to turn very smoothly.
By Newbie-Doo in forum Guitars and Basses Replies: 6 Last Post: 03-22-2005, 13:48. Kluson ® Vintage-Style Tuning Machines. These state of the art tuners are designed to directly retrofit die-cast tuners with a hex head bushing adding a rear knob locking mechanism, traditional Kluson two-screw mounting pattern and modern 25/64” peghole. Les Paul Forum Homesite
Better tuners - those with cast bases and threaded bushings, are a joy to use, smoother, perhaps more "precise" in feel, and usually nicer to look at too.
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